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that is outside the margin of error. for governor romney, time that cruel, cruel mistress is slipping away. early voting begins in ohio next tuesday. can he win without the state? if history is any judge no republican in history has won without ohio. according to the latest nbc news battleground map the president is expected to get 243 electoral votes to romney's 191. with eight tossup states. obama win in ohio with its 18 electoral votes would put him at 261 electoral votes, that is just nine away from winning re-election. surprising exactly no one ohio has been a top focus for candidates. while governor romney logged 17 trips to the state this election cycle president obama is making his 13th visit this year alone. earlier this month the democratic ticket made clear just how much ohio means to them. >> if we win ohio, we win the election. >> if we win toledo, we will win ohio. and if we win ohio we'll win this election. >> john heilemann, there has been no shortage of love for the state of ohio this election cycle. president obama and mitt romney both speaking at 1:05 today. i wonder your take
walks onto the debate stage wednesday night, mitt romney will now he's behind. know he needs to catch up. needs to win the night. what can he show of himself that he hasn't shown before and what does he need to show of barack obama that we don't already know? seeing is believing. the three times the debates have changed the lead in a presidential race. each time it was about the words, but also that something else, something that told voters what they didn't know and all of a sudden mattered a lot. and finally, bad numbers. barack obama's ahead in nearly every national poll and battle ground state poll. but what do we really make of the crunchers who say mitt romney has just a 1-5 chance to win this election? hi, i'm chris mathews. welcome to the show. with us today, new york magazine's john, trish and kelly and the huffington post's d howard. with just over a month to go for mitt romney, given the polls, the debates may be it. it could change the narrative that has dogged him or cemented. romney has the same urgent must-do list that he at the republican convention. only now could be his
room." >>> happening now, just two days before the first obama/romney debate and our new cnn national poll shows the president's lost, lost his post-convention bounce. but there's a different story in the battleground states. >>> mitt romney could make a huge impact on the supreme court. how he could change the direction of the court for decades. >>> they make $10 a day to put their lives on the line. but they could lose their job ifs they don't lose some weight. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we're now just 36 days from the presidential election and nationally our brand-new cnn/orc poll of likely voters shows the race between president obama and governor romney remaining up for grabs. the president leads 50% to 47%. but his three-point margin is within the poll's sampling error. our chief national correspondent john king is in denver getting ready for the debate over there. that's the site of the debate. john, take us into these numbers. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, wolf, i can tell you this, talking to senior officials in the romney campaign, they b
at the oh corral. president obama and governor romney are hngueli spes ie bye e. chicago has the edge. the president up by ten minutes in a survey by quinn pe yak and cbs news and leading eight points in poll by "the washington post." these polls mirror an advantage president obama held in ohio in the polls last week, worth ng the president has a lead that is outside the margin of error. for governor romney, time that cruel, cruel mistress is slipping away. early voting begins in ohio next esday. can he win without the state? ifis age no republican in history has won without ohio. according to the latest nbc news battleground map the president is expected to get 243 electoral votes to romney's 191. with eight tossup states. ecl votes would put him at 261 electoral votes, that is just nine away from winning re-election. surprising exactly no one ohio has been a top focus for candidates. while governor romney logged 17 trips to the state this election s visit this year alone.ing earlier this month the democratic ticket made clear just how much ohio means to them. >> if we win ohio, we w
. >> shockingly, senior white house adviser david plouffe had the same feelings about governor mitt romney. >> we'd expect it all along that governor romney will have a good night. he's prepared more than any candidate in history and shown himself to be a good debater through the years. >> even the candidates were tamping down expectations yesterday. >> i don't think anyone would suggest the debates aren't important. i can't tell you how important it will be. i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate that is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. when we get to thursday morning george, you're going to be shaking your head saying it's a brand new race with 33 days to go. >> governor christie right in
comment by mitt romney was getting a lot of publicity, his tax returns wut o there. let me play for you what was said when i asked what do you make of the polls. >> they're overpolling democrats to push up the president's numbers. >> is this what the romney camp really believes, matt? is it correct? >> you know, think ear going to grasp at any straw that they can. it's a problem of what happens when you nominate an electability candidate in the primary season, right? he looks nice. you can take him home to mom. . and then you have to transfer to a general election. you have to try to avoid saying anything to make a case for yourself and those are two different things. >> the question becomes what do you do. one of the things they talked about, they said it in "the new york times," let's get mitt romney and paul ryan out on the road together because ryan seems to loosen him up a little bit. but then, you know, some people are making fun of what happened in ohio yesterday. let me play that clip for you. >> wow. that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan. isn't that something? >> ryan
over the past several weeks this country has experienced what it's like being in a car with mitt romney. we've felt the swerves, the sudden shifts, the abrupt stops and reverses, the reckless changes of lan, the slipping and the sliding. thers more road ahead, of courincluding three debates, bu'rgetta e goe kexy ere he's going or even on how to drive this car. and the big question is, why is he having such a tough time? why does he seem, dare we say it, confused? could it be because he doesn't know where he's trying to take us? because he doesn't know where he wants to go? as david axelrod said, cpaigns are like an mri for the soul, oever you e, eventually led joining me now are the two men who wrote the book that resulted in a sweep of four emmys this week, "game change" authors john heilemann of "new york magazine" and mark halperin of "time." gentlemen, thank you for joining us. righnow ver mi ro'slio e t been more on display than yesterday. it involved health care reform, the issue he can't decide whether to run from ormbrace, so he did both in the same day. in an interview with nbc
on the turmoil in the middle east. also, mitt romney talking aid, trade and more drilling down on foreign policy. we're going to hear what he's saying. and the news many homeowners have been waiting for years to hear. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> a brief break from the verbal sparring, the white house race. president obama stepped back in the global spotlight in new york today addressing the united nations assembly. he spoke at length about the turmoil in the middle east touting diplomacy and coalition building as the solution to the crisis to the region that's been vexing his administration. jessica yellin is traling with the president in new york. jessica, give us an update. what did the president say? >> reporter: wolf, when the president spoke here he had two major audiences, a global audience and a domestic audience. voters listening now to foreign policy issues with a new ear and a new eye after this violence in libya. and the president addressing it all just six weeks out from the election. at the united nations, president obama used the world stage to declare. >>
the election. mitt romney still has a path to victory, but it's getting narrow. our new poll shows what's driving voters. >> i think the economy is better today than it was three years ago. >> pelley: reports from our campaign 2012 team. after one of the worst calls in football history, there is movement today on getting real officials back on the field. jeff glor is covering. and michelle miller on a bittersweet homecoming for the indiana national guard, happy to be back from afghanistan, but mourning the men that they lost. >> i would gladly give my life to bring all four of them back. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. 41 days before the election, president obama is opening leads in states that mitt romney can least afford to lose. have a look at our new poll today. the president now has a 10-point lead in the swing state of ohio, 53% to 43. in florida, another key swing state, mr. obama's lead is nine points, 53% to 44. and the president leads by 12 point in pennsylvania, 54 to 42. this quinnipiac university/cbs new
presidential campai. it's now looming even larger for mitt romney. because threnew polls t today show pollsters pulling away from him. the new quinnipiac lead gives obama a ten-point ad in ohio, nine points in florida, whopping 12 points in pennsylvania. this is aew cnbc pollha shows president obama nine points u on romney when it comes to who would do a better job on the economy. good to see you. >> great to be here. >> we suld say the polls were done at a time when the % mm by mitt romney was getting a lot of publicity, his tax returns wut o there. let me play for you what was said when i asked what do you make of the polls. >> they're overpolling democrats to ph the pdent ers. >> is this what the romney camp really believes, matt? is it correct? >> you know, think ear going to grasp at any straw that they can. it's a problemf what happens ecliante in the an primary season, right? he looks nice. you can take him home to mom. . and then you have to transfer to a general election. you have t try toavoid saying anything to make a case for yourself and those are two different ings >> tuenect do
. the headline "go large, mitt." listen to this line. it makes you think how far ahead romney would be if he were actually running a campaign, but his unwillingness to go big, to go for the larger argument, is simply astonishing. and, mark, charles goes on to say what many conservatives have said over the past several weeks. he's behind and he continues to play small. >> he does, and he continues to have days that don't really amount to much. yesterday they had a sort of a veterans message and an economy message during events in virginia but they can't wait for just the debates. i think conservatives want to see not just big events in terms of big ideas but big events that grab the nation's attention. the romney campaign is frustrated because they say all the press asks them about is process but that's par for the course and true in every campaign i've ever covered, the press will talk about process particularly polls. mitt romney, conservatives are waiting for him to be big in events, big in message, big in personality. it seems like right now the campaign is waiting for him to do that in the de
both mitt romney and president obama haveeen campaigning i the same battlegroun state. this time it's virginia where both men targeted the same group of voters. let's walk over to cnn's naon political correspondent jim acosta who's been out on the campaign trail wahingt' going . another dramatic da. virginia, virginia, virginia. pretty important place. >> that's right. a rare visit to washington for me. but it's good to be home, wolf. all politics is local. so it was no surprise to hear both candidates hit on national security themes today in their speeches in virginia. but the state is much bigger than that. it's really a republican firewall for mitt romney. in battleground virginia, both president obama and mitt romney pulled out the heavy artillery before a group of veterans, romney slammed the president for the massive defense cuts part of the fiscal cliff coming at the end of the year. >> it is still a troubled and dangerous world. and the idea of cutting our military commitment by a trillion dollars over this decade is unthinkable. and devastating. and when i become president
for joining us. right now never has mitt romney's ability to shape shift more on display than yesterday. it involved health care reform. the issue he can't decide whether to run from or embrace, so he did both in the same day. in an interview with nbc's ron allen, romney said his health care plan up in massachusetts, the one that the obama plan is modeled after, shows his compassion. let's listen. >> throughout this campaign as well we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured, 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> well, shortly after that, very shortly, a matter of two hours or so, romney spoke before a toledo, ohio, crowd to denounce obama's affordable care act which is based on his massachusetts plan. let's listen. >> i will repeal obama care and replace it with real health care reform. obama care is really exhibit number one of the president's political philosophy, and that is that government
mitt romney. debate subject area, domestic policy. debate moderator, jim lara. structure, six 15-minute segment. three focus on the economy, four, five, and six health care, the role of government and governing. procedure, each candidate gets two minutes to respond to a question posed by jim lara. time remaining is given to freewheeling discussion of segments. risk factor, dangerous, sometimes lethal. ♪ [music] ♪ >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? is america as respected throughout the world as it was? do you feel that our security is as safe, that we're as strong as we were four years ago? if you answer all of those questions yes, why then i think your choice is obvious as to who you'll vote for. if you don't agree, if you don't think that this course that we've been on for the last four years is what you would like to see us follow for the next four, then i could suggest another choice that you have. >
obama and mitt romney meanwhile battling it out in the swing state of ohio. john harwood joins us now with all the details. good evening, john. >> good evening, larry. you know, in the wake of that 47% video last week, mitt romney's got a new message and that's to tell middle class people as well as the poor that he cares about them. he did it on the stump in ohio today, he also did it in an interview with our nbc colleague ron allen just a few minutes ago. here's mitt romney. >> i served as a pastor of a congregation with people of all different backgrounds and economic circumstances that i care very deeply about the american people and people of different socioeconomic circumstances. and i think throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i've got everybody in my state insured. >> and here's some numbers, larry, that show you why that is mitt romney's message rather than tax cuts. you can't compare in the state of ohio where a new york times cbs poll shows mitt romney down by ten percentage points, president obama ahead on the econ
thank you so much for watching. chris tthews and "hardball" is next. >>> romney losing hisbearings. let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let metart with this. wh we have such long campaigns for president? because it's a tryout a chance to not just kick the tires, not just to look under the hood, but to actually take the car out for a drive. over the past several weeks this country has experienced what it's like being in a car with mi romney. we've felt the swerves, the sudden shifts, the abrup stops anreeshe reckless changes of lanes, the slipping and the sliding. there's more road ahead, of course, including three debates, but we're getting a sense that this guy doesn't know exactly where he's going or even on how to drive this car. and the big question is, why is whys seem, dare we say it, confused? could it be because he doesn't know where he's trying to take us? because he doesn't know where he wants to go? as david axelrod said, campaigns are like an mri for the soul, whoever you are, eventually pele find out. joining now are t m whot too
to action at the u.n. and yes there is also news in the search for jimmy hoffa. >>> first, mitt romney is venturing out of the swing states today. romney is in pennsylvania trying to pluck that state from the grasp of president barack obama. 39 days until the election. pennsylvania is one of the states that is leaning toward the president, but romney is predicting an upset. >> i've got a little secret here, that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania, we're going to take the white house. >> well, wolf blitzer with us now. so, you know, from washington, wolf, we have seen romney confine his campaign to the nine battleground states. why is he now taking a shot at this state, pennsylvania, which clearly seems to be leaning obama? >> according to the public polls, obama is doing really well in pennsylvania. maybe he's got some private polls that he's doing inside his campaign that shows some other trends developing in pennsylvania. i haven't seen any public po
, president obama and mitt romney make their case in ohio. we're headed to the buckeye state next. >>> now we go to campaign 2012, a lot of the focus on ohio today. golfing legend and native son jack nicklaus helped republican mitt romney make the case he's the better presidential candidate. both romney and president obama have made more than a dozen visits to the critical swing state of ohio. >> the people of ohio are going to say loud and clear on november 6th we can't afford four more years. we must do better. >> it looks like mitt romney needs to do better in ohio right now. a new cbs poll finds him trailing the president by 10 points, the lead among women 25 point. president obama also campaigned today in the buckeye state. a quinnipiac university cbs news poll new york sometimes as well has him leading in two other battlegrounds, florida and pennsylvania. >>> coming up on 9news no problem with name recognition, bruce leshan reports from romney, west virginia. >> reporter: i'm bruce leshan in romney, west virginia. this small town may share its name with the republican presidential nomi
in the race for president. barack obama and mitt romney trade prime time shots at each other with just six weeks left in the race. >> disaster at 20,000 feet. dozens still missing after an avalanche on one of the world's highest peaks. >>> and upset at the emmys. a new upstages "mad men" and grabs the top trophy. good morning. i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. >>> our big story off the bat, tensions rising in the race for the white house. mitt romney promising to get more aggressive in the final six weeks of the campaign. he said the president has been intentionally misleading voters about his positions. we have two telling pieces of sound to play. first, listen to president obama's heated words responding to criticism on his foreign policy. then listen to romney counter about the president's attacks on his own positions. >> i've executed on my foreign policy. it's one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> i'm not going to try to fool people into thinking he believes things
americans. >> romney: he said the developments in the middle east are bumps in the road. [ laughter ] >> romney: yeah that was my reaction. >> the obama campaign said romney is once again politicizing an international tragedy and taking the president's comments out of context. one romney remark that is tough to take in context is at a fund raiser over the weekend. his wife's plane had an electrical fire on board and had to make an emergency landing. he said he doesn't understand why windows on planes didn't open, and thought that was dangerous. [ laughter ] >> you can't make this stuff up. we're back after the break. ♪ >> on tonight's show, suzanne somers is going to bench press me and sue simmons. just watching the episode, you'll lose ten pounds. [ train whistle blows ] [ ball hitting paddle ] [ orbit girl ] don't let food hang around. yeah! [ orbit trumpet ] clean it up with orbit! [ orbit glint ] fabulous! for a good clean feeling. ♪ eat, drink, chew orbit! ♪ >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of outrage that they're do
job. i'm mitt romney, and i approved this message. >> i think that ad just makes my point, they're tone deaf. good morning, it's thursday, september 27th, as you take a look at a wet times square in new york city. i'm in chicago this morning, but with us in new york city with willie geist, our national affairs editor for "new york" magazine and msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. also former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst steve ratner and nbc news chief affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports." >> we have affairs. >> andrea mitchell. and in washington, for "the politico playbook," executive executor jim vandehei. of course, willie, we've got a lot to talk about. let's start really quickly with the refs! >> they're back. >> we've got some breaking news. i've got to tell you, little kay, she's very excited because she's 9 years old. she plays in the soccer league. and the parents have had to ref over the past couple weeks because those guys have gone off to the nfl, but it's taken care of now. >> that's great news. >> drilled down deep
that the romney campaign is spending any campaign money advertising in pennsylvania. if they are, it is really not much. but as i say, maybe there is something that his campaign knows that we don't yet know becae righnow it looks like obama is doing really, really well innsylnia. and the surrounding new jersey, new york, or maryland for that matter. i roey doeshave a sho viouslin some of the other states like ohio, not that far away, but pennlvania looks like a long shot. he w doing som fd-raising there earlier today, had a rally in pennsylvania, but see if this is serious, this notion that he p has a shot pennsylvani it would be a amatic shift. >> wow,e h,wolf, a lot of s real turning ich begi wednesday in denver. no we also have received this memo fm a romney senior adviser that mes it sounas though romney is the underdog. let me read a portion o now. saying president obama is uniquely gifteead is widely regarded as one of the most talented political communicators in mdern hitory. this will be the eighth one on one presidential debate of his political career. for mitt romney, it will be his
's going to have the best zingers. >> you will. >> i don't know about that. president romney is a good debater. >> that is in response to reports that romney is prepping and plans on taking jabs at the president. obama spokeswoman is saying don't expect the president to fire any blows and he looks forward to continuing his conversation with the american people. the president is traveling with a prep team, david axelrod anita dunn and senator john kerry. kerry is playing romney during the mock debates with the president. the team is hunkering down to get the president ready. romney is campaigning in denver today with a stop with the wings over the rockies museum. paul ryan is at a rally in iowa. early voting in iowa is now underway. a washington post poll out this morning shows 63% of registered voters expect president obama to win reelection and a washington times zombie poll has the president with a pretty good lead. more coming up after the break. stay with us. you're about to watch an ad message created by a current tv viewer for capella university. matter. education is the key. it
me this morning it is 48-46 in gallup. jon: 48% for the president and 46% for romney. >> in rasmussen was 48-45. now it is 47-46. there is a little bit of tightening. in august nbc "wall street journal" had the president's approval on foreign affairs is 54-40. the latest one is 49-46. the president has not come across as a strong leader on the world stage. he has come across as a politician. it was his own fault. imagine what happened on 9/12 i will not go to las vegas for campaign event. first time since 1979 an ambassador of the united states has been murdered i will sit down with intelligence agencies to meet and discuss what needs to be done to get back at jihadists and get people who did this and not only that, further damage the networks that brought that about. instead he got on airplane to give a rally at high school and collect a bunch of checks that is distinctly like a candidate. jon: in that las vegas speech suggested those who are out there campaigning for him were essentially working as hard as those who who work in the foreign service and even our troops. >> that's corr
and governor mitt romney get ready for a face-off at this week's first debate. >>> plus a couple of big surprises from arnold schwarzenegger who talks candidly about his childhood and the housekeeper. >>> and an epic fail by the united states. after being up for a significant lead, the guys in the ryder cup lose big, berman. >> it was a disaster. complete meltdown. well, still, good morning. and welcome to october, everyone. this is "early start." i'm john berman in washington this morning. >> and i'm sir riesirita simon. >>> president barack obama and mitt romney square off wednesday night in denver. both trying to lower expectations practically gushing over one another, but new jersey governor chris christie is going against the grain and setting the bar high for the republican nominee. >>er time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments, he has come through in a debate and performed extraordinarily well laying out his vision very clearly and also contrasting himself with his vision with hoomp his opponent was at that time. so i have absolute confidenc
toss upstate, president obama and governor romney both campaigning in the same battleground state today. we'll take you straight to ohio and talk about the strategies there, plus violent protests in two european capitols. latest fall outs from efforts to slash out of control government spending. what the street battles you're seeing across the pond there mean for our economic future. and finding justice for an american couple murdered in a tropical paradise. it's all happening now. and back to the big story of the day, iranian mahmoud ahmadinejad getting set to address the u.n. general assembly. hello, everyone, i'm arthe arthel nevel in for jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott. mahmoud ahmadinejad delivering what is expected to be his final speech to the u.n. as president of the islamic republic. this caps a week of belligerent receipt particular. on tuesday he called for a new world order, free from what he calls american bullying. all this has governor mitt romney and the republican national committee hit the president hard on foreign policy, releasing a scathing attack being the president'
. thank you. >> governor romney fallen behind in the national polls. new polls out this morning iowa and ohio behind in both. we were laughing about the expectations setting on both sides but, governor romney has to shake things up, wednesday night, doesn't he. >> he is going to. every time mitt romney has been confronted in this campaign with one of these moments he has come through in a debate and performed extraordinarily well, laying out his vision very clearly and also contrasting himself and his vision with whoever his opponent was at that time. i have absolute confidence, george, all you will be shaking your head it is a brand new race. jenna: new jersey governor chris christie, making a bold prediction, how about that? the bold prediction related to the first presidential debate saying governor mitt romney's performance against the president could very well change the entire race. but how important are presidential debates and how much do they really shape the outcome in november? we heard a lot. joining me someone who has done research on polling impact of past debates. larr
and "wall street journal" that show a tight race between the president and mitt romney. and we're looking through the eyes of the "saturday night live" crew. a special campaign edition later on in the show. first, let us get to the news live here at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in the center of new york city. we do begin with new developments out of libya. the a.p. reporting the u.s. state department is pulling more staffers out of its embassy in the capital of tripoli over security fears. the move is expected to be temporary until the security situation improves. the embassy was already operating with limited staff following the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that left four americans dead. it is now been 17 days since that attack. sources say fbi agents sent to investigate the murders still have not been able to visit the actual scene of the crime due to security concerns. secretary of defense leon panetta yesterday said there was no doubt terrorists were responsible. >> as we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place that it became clear tha
romney square off in denver for the first of three critical debates. president's being prepped in nevada today. and the gop challenger has some ground to make up because a brand-new "washington post"/abc news poll this morning has the president leading by two percentage points among likely voters. it's not unusual for candidates to try to lower expectations in the days leading up to dedebate. republicans have been playing up the president's eloquence, ever since last week. but it seems somebody forgot to tell new jersey governor chris christie, because he was setting the bar high for mr. romney. listen. >> he's going to come in wednesday night, lay out his vision for america, he's going to contrast what his view is with what the president's record is, the president's view for the future and this whole race is going to be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> upside down is what he says. in just a few minutes we're going to be talking about wednesday night's debate and the president's preparations with brad woodhouse, communications director for the democratic national committee. f
, afghanistan, and president obama is trashing mitt romney. let's take a listen. >> would it be disastrous for the country if mitt romney were elected? >> well, you know, i think america is so strong and we've got so much going for us, that we can survive a lot. but the american people don't want to just survive. we want everybody to thrive. we want folks to have a shot at success. and so the question then just becomes whose policies are more lookly to lead us to where we want to go. >> obviously in this campaign season, this is where the candidates are going. they're going to the "the view," the jay leno show" or "the daily show." president obama got rid of bin laden, he end the the war in afghanistan and iraq. it just seemed weird that he had a world stage to show how important he was as a world statesman and here he is talk on "the view." >> are there any big accomplishments that come out of these meetings? he is getting a lot of criticism over this but what's the outcome anyway? >> if you look at some of the issues out there and you saw what happened last week, raging protests in pakis
the evangelical vote is so important to both barack obama and mitt romney, what do you say to your flock when they come and see you and say look, joel, i can't work out who to vote for, what do you say to them? >> well, piers, i just go back to a central theme of encouraging everybody to vote, to search their own heart, because it's interesting, good people of faith can read the scripture and interpret it differently. i have democrats and republicans in our church that love the lord, you know, that couldn't be any better people but they just, you know, different issues speak to them. >> the president, though, is a conventional christian. mitt romney is a mormon. and there are fundamental differences. the holy trinity definition in both is very, very different. the mormons beeve there are the father, son and holy spirit. obviously, the christian faith believes they're all the same thing. how do you deal with that? surely your natural leaning would be towards the guy that believes the same that you do. >> i think you're right in that instance. i think also, though, you look at the whole totalit
'm martha maccallum. the romney campaign is joining this growing chorus of lawmakers. senator john mccain saying the administration's response was inept and ignorant and susan rice blaming it on a spontaneous protest was inexcusable. >> it's either willful ignorance or abysmal ignorance to think people come to spontaneous demonstrations with mortars and heavy weapons pant attack goes on for hours. bill: both sides are complaining. governor romney's team says the white house is still getting its story mixed up. >> reporter: democrats say republicans are politicizing the tragic attack that cost of life of four americans. the republicans say the white house is cover ugging up the details for political reasons. here is axlerod. >> the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened. but when you are the responsible party, when you are the administration and you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believed. >> reporter: actually it was several days after the benghazi attack before the white house called it terrorism and that came aft
's been obtained by cnn shows that the romney campaign is apparently trying to lower expectations for the presidential debate. the first debate, of course is on wednesday. and in that memo romney adviser beth myers tells campaign surrogates there are several reasons that she believes the president will be likely to win the first debate, including this reason. here's a quote. this will be the eighth one-on-one presidential debate of his political career. for mitt romney, it will be his first. let's get right to congressman tim murphy, republican from pennsylvania. he's a romney campaign surrogate. nice to see you, sir. thank you for talking with us, appreciate it. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> thank you. i'm always very concerned on both sides in the campaign when they start saying really nice things about each other. everybody's been complimenting the other person's ability to do debates and highlighting the experience, and the -- the intrinsic ability they have. all of that, to me, goes to what this panel is, this memo is saying, excuse me. do you think that's true tha
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